{"id":1228,"date":"2024-01-26T11:13:00","date_gmt":"2024-01-26T11:13:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/caitomos.com\/?p=1228"},"modified":"2025-01-26T11:33:15","modified_gmt":"2025-01-26T11:33:15","slug":"alberto-de-torres","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/caitomos.com\/cy\/alberto-de-torres\/","title":{"rendered":"Alberto de Torres"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Some Things from Somewhere - Alberto de Torres\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/tNUdDdx7a4I?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>camera, lighting, sound &amp; edit: John Collingswood<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>costume: Alberto de Torres<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">CAI: so we speak of Alberto. Alberto came into the project a little later. The first time I saw Alberto in the workshop was dressed with the cloak, la capa, facing the wall, and he was still. Whenever I saw him again in the workshop I noticed the stillness; I noticed his non action in a way which was an action. The stillness was loud; the stillness which was like a stone in a&nbsp; lake, rippling through the space, against the activity of the workshop. And in this week the work with Alberto\u2026 there has been something about the interior space for Alberto and how important the interior space is; the inner space, the discipline of cultivation, of working the inner space, the discipline of meditation, of contemplative practices, contemplative movement practices and how this seems to have been the line, the thread of the work. The action I proposed first was a simple action of to do with clothes: undressing, dressing, but to make this daily action in a contemplative way, in a mindful way; in a way that shows us the precision of his movement, of his quality and his attention to the detail. It is a difficult task, it\u2019s a very difficult task to keep the line of quality like a drawing, almost the same, to keep the aesthetic, to keep the line of the aesthetic, and not to break the line, and I think what I noticed this week was that it\u2019s a very difficult thing that he\u2019s been doing. The clothing that he brings\u2026 are contradictory, beautifully contradictory, the cowboy hat and the cape; it\u2019s a wonderful contradiction, a wonderful juxtaposition and something which can\u2019t be formed, something which can\u2019t be closed. Its hard to make a conclusion of what we see. It\u2019s like all the clothing reveal another possibility or a question, So nothing is finished nothing is stamped and closed and that\u2019s what I\u2019ve noticed about the process so far.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The film, possibly, for the installation will be this idea of many selves, many people, so perhaps there\u2019ll be five Albertos in different stages of the undressing that shows different journeys of time with movement, different aspects that become revealed with the costume changing. It\u2019s almost like a chrysalis; a shedding of different selves and what\u2019s revealed. But its like the movement of time, like the season, The trees falling the leaves, the change of season, I think\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LOLA: s\u00ed, yo creo que en el d\u00eda a d\u00eda del taller esos tres aspectos est\u00e1n siempre. Alberto siempre llega vestido de algo, siempre. Y ese algo cambia. A veces va vestido impecablemente como un se\u00f1or. Llega, se quita el sombrero, quita el bast\u00f3n, se quita lo que tiene, se quita una camiseta y de repente va vestido de gimnasta o de repente va vestido con collares budistas para meditar o de cualquier otra cosa. Siempre adem\u00e1s hay una acci\u00f3n con respecto a la ropa al llegar, d\u00eda a d\u00eda; y siempre hay una acci\u00f3n de meditaci\u00f3n. Antes de dibujar, de cara a la pared o dentro de la c\u00fapula que est\u00e1 dentro de la nave, medita y luego dibuja. Y como dices, el dibujo es estricto, tiene una necesidad de que la l\u00ednea sea muy pura, de no salirse, muy limpio, no acepta, digamos, consejos acerca de liberarse. Los consejos acerca de ser m\u00e1s libre, no los acepta bien, los entiende como algo que le desorienta\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LUIS:&nbsp; claro, hay una contenci\u00f3n&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LOLA: \u2026necesita ce\u00f1irse a lo que \u00e9l quiere hacer y en sus dibujos tambi\u00e9n est\u00e1n muy presentes esos personajes mezcla de diferentes cosas. Por ejemplo recuerdo un dibujo que pusimos en una exposici\u00f3n de un hombre culturista, pero con gafas como de hombre intelectual y con una camiseta extra\u00f1a; es decir, tiene personajes que crean&nbsp; una sensaci\u00f3n extra\u00f1a y esa mezcla de personajes yo creo que es muy interesante en Alberto y permanece en su trabajo y en su persona. O sea, Alberto siempre trae varias&nbsp; capas de vestido y en cada capa de vestido tiene una narraci\u00f3n distinta, tiene un argumento o un personaje diferente; eso lo vamos viendo a lo largo de muchos a\u00f1os.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LUIS: yo no tengo nada m\u00e1s que decir, me parece muy bien lo que hab\u00e9is dicho. I don\u2019t have anything else to add. The things you said are perfect.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LOLA: s\u00ed, bueno, igual se puede a\u00f1adir algo acerca de lo que dec\u00eda Cai, de c\u00f3mo cultiva ese espacio interior, a la vez que necesita todas esas capas de vestido, y de repente en esta acci\u00f3n con Cai,&nbsp; como cada d\u00eda tambi\u00e9n en el taller, va despoj\u00e1ndose de esas capas.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LUIS: in my opinion your action, what you proposed for Alberto is very correcto, acertado, in the sense of undressing. If Alberto comes to the workshop dressed meaning different Albertos as you said, many different selves, characters, yeah the question is undressing, so as you said other times, revealing, appearing as I don\u2019t know, as what Alberto is. So the one who dressed hides in so many different characters.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LOLA: es curioso tambi\u00e9n que normalmente Alberto viene vestido de una forma muy tradicional, muy convencional, como un se\u00f1or convencional con abrigo, sombrero, o sea muy formal. Y a medida que va quitando capas, van apareciendo detalles muy poco convencionales como de repente unos tirantes de rayas que rompen la est\u00e9tica convencional y va entrando en est\u00e9ticas m\u00e1s atrevidas, m\u00e1s alternativas, aparecen cosas sorprendentes de combinaci\u00f3n de color, camisetas sin mangas con tirantes de rayas, cosas de joyas, de collares, en fin, van surgiendo Albertos menos convencionales. Y finalmente para cuando va a meditar, ya est\u00e1 pr\u00e1cticamente en una camiseta y en una malla nada m\u00e1s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LUIS: did you understand?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">CAI: some.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LUIS: so the main thing is that his first presence used to be very formal, convencional, but under this first layer appears things that break this formality. Something like bracelets, t-shirts, so \u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">CAI: s\u00ed, s\u00ed. And underneath there are these kind of esoteric images; underneath everything, this part of him, the mysterious. And I always have the image of Alberto like endless Russian dolls, you know the Russian dolls?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LUIS: ah, las mu\u00f1ecas rusas.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">CAI: endless, never ending Russian dolls.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LOLA: and he has a very strong relationship&nbsp; with all spiritual world: religion, Catholic religion, Budism..<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LUIS: and the body itself? What about the body of Alberto? The presence of the body, his muscles\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LOLA: his body when he is without clothes, the line is very perfect, like his drawings.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">CAI: there\u2019s a discipline which you can see in the way in which he moves, he has worked the discipline of the body to allow the kind of control of movement which can only happen over time, through understanding the body, the knowledge of the body and the articulation between movement and sensation. His gestures, the small gestures of the hands, the quality of those, the understanding of the interior and how this understanding of the interior is communicated; because it\u2019s communicated through the precision of the gesture, the clarity of the gesture as it would be a drawing. In a way, like any dancer, through knowing, knowing of the sensation and how to apply the sensation into action to communicate feeling.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LUIS: yeah, I wanted to say also that in my opinion for Alberto is so important coming dressed like a dandy, for example, is so important as getting undressed. So the importance of his body and to be seen. It\u2019s something we have spoken about. La importancia de\u2026 show, mostrar his body. I think for Alberto his body is something he wants to show also.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LOLA: he likes very much the culturism.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LUIS: s\u00ed, se quiere mostrar desnudo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LOLA: s\u00ed, es curioso como mezcla una parte muy espiritual y una parte de cultivo del cuerpo. Muchos de sus dibujos son de culturistas, hombres y mujeres con m\u00fasculos. Tiene esas dos l\u00edneas muy claras, la religiosa espiritual y la del cultivo del cuerpo, las dos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sadly, Alberto De Torres passed away in 2020, a victim of the Covid-19 pandemic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>CAI: so we speak of Alberto. Alberto came into the project a little later. The first time I saw Alberto in the workshop was dressed with the cloak, la capa, facing the wall, and he was still. 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